Look, I think we’re a country that elected an actor who made movies with chimpanzees, we elected a nuclear engineer peanut farmer. We elected a guy from Arkansas who had no particular claim to be ready to be president. So, you know, a wide range of people have won the presidency. And I think those of us who watch in amazement as Donald Trump wiped out 16 competitors before taking on Clinton and beating her, I don’t want to be presumptive, so I would say that Sanders has a very distance possibility of winning. But he’s a much greater likelihood of taking the entire democratic ticket down, ending Pelosi’s speakership. He’s the greatest gift to Kevin McCarthy, the Republican leader in the house you could possibly hope for. Because Sanders really is the true Democratic Party. He represents all of the big government ideas, all of the radicalism, all of the weird foreign policy that’s is at the heart of the Democratic Party. And I think that the contrast between president Trump and his record, particularly on the economy, but just in general. I mean, think about the trump judges and then ask, you know, can Sanders give us a list of people he would nominate to the supreme court? They would all be radicals. So, it could end up being one of the great historic campaigns in American history.
I think a lot of Democrats, including Mayor Bloomberg have been trying to make that case. The challenge you have is something very different. Bernie Sanders essentially is a bumper sticker. It is a gosh, I love a nice future where I didn’t have to pay back my student loans. Where everything was free. Where somebody took care of me. And Sanders represents in that sense a sort of a myth. And it’s very hard to fight a myth with facts. Now, everyone who is open to facts will peel away, ultimately, and the campaign which laid out what Sanders would mean I think would be devastating. You look — I worked on a new book for this summer laying out the choice on this campaign. And I’m devoting an entire chapter to what I’m calling the radical 200 in the house. Because when you start going down the list, you know, this isn’t five or ten or 15 people. This is not AOC and “The Squad,” the entire democratic party is marching off of a left-wing cliff and doing so — there’s a bill, for example, that would raise the FICA tax and the social security tax by 19 percent, and it has 206 democrats signed on. Something is going on in — Democrats signed on. Something with this party where they’ve lost all touch of reality.
Anybody who honeymoons in the Soviet Union and who said that John F. Kennedy made him sick because Kennedy refused to work with Fidel Castro. I mean if you go back through Sanders’ entire career, he’s very hard left. He’s somewhere between a genuine communist and a very, very hard core socialist. But he’s also been around for a long time. He’s learned the game. He’s pretty good at shading things. The problem he’s going to have, as any Democrat will have, is if you run into Donald Trump, you’re running against someone who is willing to go head on, uses the power of the enormous Twitter following, which is larger than the three networks combined, and I think that ultimately as I said a while ago, Bernie Sanders literally could be exactly the choice the country should face because then we have the real debate. I mean, do you want to go down the road of Zimbabwe and Venezuela and Cuba, every failed centralized state in the world? Or do you want to continue creating job, have the best economy we’ve ever had, lowers unemployment rate for African Americans and Latinos. That’s a clear choice. It will be healthy for America to get it in the open.