NEWT:
Well, those are two different questions. I think this is a party which has broadly become a deeply pro-American party, a deeply committed anti-counterculture party. A party that believes Washington has to be taken on and Washington has to be changed. I think all that is true. Part of it relates to Trump, but candidly, part of it is bigger than Trump. He may not want to hear that but it’s true.
This is a long-term national movement that goes all the way back to Goldwater and continued to build momentum. On Liz’s part, look, the Cheney’s are a very smart, very experienced family. They have a remarkable record of serving. I thought she had every right as an individual member to vote her conscience. She had no right to use the chairmanship of the conference to exploit her position when, in fact, the conference by about 200 to 10, that’s 20 to 1, was on the other side. That’s why I think from an internal legislative standpoint she simply can’t be chairman of a conference that she refuses to listen to. This is — this business is about listening, not just about speaking. And she clearly refuses to listen.
NEWT:
Sure, and look, it’s beyond Washington. Donald J. Trump just got a huge boost from Facebook, which basically canceled him, making him a martyr, and helping convince every single American that if you can get 75 million votes and some oligarch sitting there in his palace in California can cancel you, then they can cancel anybody in America. That’s a pretty good campaign choice. You want to be with the oligarchs like Biden apparently is? Or do you want to stand for freedom and the right of every person to be heard? And so, I think this stuff is going to go on and it is very profound. It does literally go back to Barry Goldwater starting in the late 50’s. Reagan picked it up. To some extent we did with the Contract with America. Now, Trump has personified it. It ain’t going away. And it’s a profoundly different party than the party of 20 or 30 years ago.
