NEWT:
Well, I mean, look, Pence has been a good congressman, a governor, a vice president. He’s young, fit, smart, has a nationwide base of people who admire his traditional conservatism. And I think he sort of thinks, why not? I mean, a lot of these guys are focused on the idea that somewhere down the road, whether it’s in the Justice Department indictment that we were told today, is about to occur or it’s the Atlanta indictment or some other thing that magically Trump will disappear and then there will be a wide open race. And frankly, in a wide open race, Mike Pence is very attractive, just as governor DeSantis is very attractive.
NEWT:
Well I think you may be right. On the other hand, maybe you’re not. The fact is, I’m not I’m not sure the average voter goes out there and says themselves, gee, am I part of the Reagan coalition? Well, the average voter wants to know is, are you going to help fix inflation? Are you going to help fix the economy? Are you going to control the border? Are you going to fix our schools? Are you going to knock down the weird left wing wokeism? I mean, they have a series of things they want. And any of these candidates potentially could make a case for it including the governor of North Dakota, who is a self-funding billionaire and an interesting guy. And again, you’re you’re in a global environment.
NEWT:
And I think we lose if that’s the way we go. But but, Laura, I think as candidates stupid enough to take the positions you just described has no hope. Now, all of them can do polling. All of them can look at the information all and go out on the stump. Very few people are going to run out and say, Hi, I’m a globalist, they’re not going to say, I really love having an open border. But but to me, the interesting thing is, look, I have a two lake theory of what’s going on. There’s a very large lake that has all the Trump voters. There’s a much smaller lake that has the non-Trump voters. All of these candidates, including DeSantis, who’s failed to sort of make the cut. All these candidates are in the non-Trump lake fighting for about 40% of the party. Trump, I suspect, is popping champagne corks at Mar a Lago every time there’s a new candidate. I mean, what he wants is 15 or 20 candidates out there making a whole range of noise. And one person that the country identifies with. And if he gets that, he could be the nominee by March.
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